Is this Honduras coin duplicated or wrong KM# or something else?

Is this coin's lines from 2005, 2006 and 2007 the same as on link to? Just non-magnetic? 

Link 1: N#8491

Link 2: N#42555

If not, what's then the difference between the year lines with the same year, but not completly same KM#..?

Help, please and thank you 😅😁

Probably a little redesigned obverse, see here:

https://numismaster.com/?id=-10012282&advancedsearch=true&pageno=1

KM# 76.4 has a larger legend and larger date than KM# 76.3.  KM# 76.4a has same design as KM# 76.4 but different composition.

Anyway, there is no year varieties between the two types, so the year tells you clearly, which KM# the coin is.

Sjoelund

Anyway, there is no year varieties between the two types, so the year tells you clearly, which KM# the coin is.

Not really. According to SCWC 2006 and 2007 have both km76.3 and km76.4. Numista has the same plus 2005 (not sure where this info came from).  I tried to find an example of km76.3 on a 2005, 2006 or 2007 coin but came up empty. That's why I used a 2002 instead. Do you have a 2005, 2006 or 2007 km76.3?

Right, you're checking more than I, here is the SCWC

and here is what Numista has defined with “home made” KM#s

and here is what I have in my collection, I also invented a KM#, when the alloy changed in 2010.

I have to check the 2006 and 2007 coins, and try to figure which KM# they ought to have!

See you later.

I see, that the 

KM76.4a does exist in Numismaster.

Well seen, I hardly ever check Numismaster nowadays. At least KM is agreeing with my numbering……

Looking at your coins, the 2002 is definitely a small date (km76.3) but the 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007 all have larger dates.  Your 2010 is magnetic so that one isn't questionable.  I suspect that there aren't two types for the 2006 and 2007, that the 2003 and 2005 should have been in the km76.4 list and there are no brass 2010 (at least Numista got this one right).

I don't think we'll ever understand what SCWC was doing.

The 1995,

 small date, does it really exist?

Sjoelund

The 1995,

 small date, does it really exist?

Should be four 1995 varieties: with/without clouds, large/small date.  I've only found the without clouds/large date variety.  

You're right in everything, do you make the CR?

No. I have no proof that they don't exist.  Just my gut feeling.

rsirian1

No. I have no proof that they don't exist.  Just my gut feeling.

I still think, it ought to be mentioned in the comments?

Sjoelund

rsirian1

No. I have no proof that they don't exist.  Just my gut feeling.

I still think, it ought to be mentioned in the comments?

Maybe but not on my word alone.  With the coin having an NRI of 7 and 4% and 3% claiming to have one of the 1995 small dates that means over 115 members claim to have one.  I can't defend deleting two year lines or a comment suggesting they don't exist.

NO,

of course not, I meant in the general comments…..

Did a dive into ebay.  I think I could convince myself there are 1995 small and large dates (although “large” and “larger” may be a better description).

That looks convincing, a good hunt you had, although nobody without a caliper with a precision of one hundredth of a millimeter, will be able to recognize the two different ones. Now I think you can change those two year lines?

Change to what?  Maybe just put this in the comments?

You could have added the measurements to the year lines… but your suggested insert works as well, if the members look into the common comments  

I added it in the general comments section and as an example of the two year lines. I don't know if that's allowed but I did it.

rsirian1

I added it in the general comments section and as an example of the two year lines. I don't know if that's allowed but I did it.

Well I got my answer.  Not allowed on the year lines which makes sense.  It was added to the general comments.

Thanks

Could you maybe also add a picture of the differance between KM# 76,3 and 76,4. That would be much appriciated 😁😊

It's there, I just saw it: N#8491

Jamtrup

Could you maybe also add a picture of the differance between KM# 76,3 and 76,4. That would be much appriciated 😁😊

I couldn't fine both for the same year.  Will this one do?

I think he's talking about the 1995?

That will do, or make it more obvius in your picture for the 1995 in the general comments? It took me a moment to realise it was both KM#, right? Or no? 🤔

Sjoelund

I think he's talking about the 1995?

My coin is the 2006 one, and I was in doubt how to defferanciate the two types of the 76.3 and 76.4. So a comparison would be nice 😅

Jamtrup

Sjoelund

I think he's talking about the 1995?

My coin is the 2006 one, and I was in doubt how to defferanciate the two types of the 76.3 and 76.4. So a comparison would be nice 😅

To quote myself, “ I tried to find an example of km76.3 on a 2005, 2006 or 2007 coin but came up empty. That's why I used a 2002 instead. Do you have a 2005, 2006 or 2007 km76.3?”  What I mean is that for 2005, 2006 and 2007 I could not find two different size dates for the same year.  I believe (without proof) that only one variety was minted in the same year.

Jamtrup

That will do, or make it more obvius in your picture for the 1995 in the general comments? It took me a moment to realise it was both KM#, right? Or no? 🤔

No, not right. There is no KM# 76.4 for 1995. They are both KM# 76.3 (without clouds).  Do not assume there is any logic to this coin and SCWC KM numbers.  You'll just go crazy thinking about it.