Greenland, 1926 1 Krone, variety attribution

Dear collectors!

I've got this 1926 Greenlandic 1 Krone coin. 

N#6962

This type has 3 varieties, and I am not entirely sure which one is this. I believe it is either “Hole in the heart” or DDO. I would like to ask for help in attribution.

Thank you for your answers!

Kind regards,

Ilya

Hey Ilya, you have undeniably the hole in the heart above the second lion:

It looks like variety 3, the DDO but that's very easy to check, variety 3 should have mintmark ♥•G•S in stead of mintmark ♥•G•J

I had cataloged my Krone before the lines were split up over varieties. This thread triggered me to have a closer look.

I would attribute my coin to type 3 as well, but it has ♥•G•J mint marks:

Yes Arno, despite the ♥•G•J mintmark your coin also has that DDO of the heart and the crown:

But I'm afraid there's is a mistake on the coinpage anyway. Look at the picture of variety 2, the so called “Hole in the heart above the lion in the middle”:

That picture also has that DDO of the heart and the crown, so that picture is not on his place there.

So we have to search which varieties exist. Certainly the “normal heart” (I have it) and the “hole in the heart with DDO” for ♥•G•J (your coin). Now he have to search for a “hole in the heart with DDO” for ♥•G•S" and for a “hole in the heart without DDO”. I'll let you know what I can find.

On the samples with doubling, there's also clear doubling of the top lion's mouth. The heart with the hole is doubled itself as well.

The center of the shift is in the chest of the top lion:

The traces of doubling are only on a very small part of the design, no doubling elsewhere. Unfortunately, I have no idea how working dies are produced from the mother die, and how it can happen that only part of the die is doubled.

The fact that there are multiple copies around with exactly the same doubling does confirm that it is a die problem.

Anyway, I've checked more than 50 coins, most of them are with normal heart or with DDO, I've only found a few with hole in the heart without DDO:

So there are indeed 3 different varieties:

- Normal heart

- Hole in the heart

- Hole in the heart with double die of the heart and crown

All the coins I've found have mintmark ♥•G•J. I strongly believe the ♥•G•S mintmark in the first year line is a typo and just had to be ♥•G•J. There are no other coins in Greenland nor Denmark with that mintmark and:

It would be totally illogical to have a ♥•G•S mintmark in 1926!

Essor Prof

Anyway, I've checked more than 50 coins, most of them are with normal heart of with DDO, I've only found a few with hole in the heart without DDO:

 

 

So there are indeed 3 different varieties:

- Normal heart

- Hole in the heart

- Hole in the heart with double die of the heart and crown

All the coins I've found have mintmark ♥•G•J. I strongly believe the ♥•G•S mintmark in the first year line is a typo and just had to be ♥•G•J. There are no other coins in Greenland nor Denmark with that mintmark and:

It would be totally illogical to have a ♥•G•S mintmark in 1926!

I looked through multiple auction houses and Ebay pictures, and came to the same conclusion. I couldn't find a single one with ♥•G•S. Neither NGC, nor PCGS don't list that mintmark as well.

So, I guess my coin is "Hole in the heart" DDO?

Ma9nWaRr10

 

So, I guess my coin is "Hole in the heart" DDO?

Yes, you can clearly see the hole in the heart on your coin as well as the double crown and the double heart (see pictures second post).

Conclusion:

Comments?

Some other question which has been bothering me for a long time, and which can perfectly be illustrated with this Krone.

At the bottom of the coin page are the auction results. The four results at the bottom are graded XF, but in my opinion, they are at the low end of VF. The one with lot nr. 2310 I wouldn't even give more than F. The ones graded Unc. are just nice VFs, aren't they?

Is it just me who is a pessimistic grader, or are even professionals now poisoning our hobby?

ArnoV

Some other question which has been bothering me for a long time, and which can perfectly be illustrated with this Krone.

 

At the bottom of the coin page are the auction results. The four results at the bottom are graded XF, but in my opinion, they are at the low end of VF. The one with lot nr. 2310 I wouldn't even give more than F. The ones graded Unc. are just nice VFs, aren't they?

 

Is it just me who is a pessimistic grader, or are even professionals now poisoning our hobby?

I seem to agree with you☺️

Essor Prof

Ma9nWaRr10

 

So, I guess my coin is "Hole in the heart" DDO?

Yes, you can clearly see the hole in the heart on your coin as well as the double crown and the double heart (see pictures second post).

Thank you!

ArnoV

Some other question which has been bothering me for a long time, and which can perfectly be illustrated with this Krone.

 

At the bottom of the coin page are the auction results. The four results at the bottom are graded XF, but in my opinion, they are at the low end of VF. The one with lot nr. 2310 I wouldn't even give more than F. The ones graded Unc. are just nice VFs, aren't they?

 

Is it just me who is a pessimistic grader, or are even professionals now poisoning our hobby?

I mostly agree with you. I compared the images of the UNC graded coins to mine (NGC MS64) but I did not find much or any wear. So I think that for the two UNC the grade is more or less correct. (Might be high AU as well, difficult to tell by pictures) 

However for most other coins the grade is way off. Those graded AU are probably low XF only. And I am not even speaking about the lot nr. 2310 haha

Sorry for reviving this topic, but have you modified the page and it just wasn't accepted yet, or should I do that?