Bolivia 100 Pesos P#163 - potential variant

Hello to my fellow banknote enthusiasts!

I have a Bolivian 100 Pesos Bolivianos note that I’m unable to match 100% with the Numista database. I do not currently have a good reference book on world currency (and I hope that changes in the near future). I’ve read and researched all of the types of this note within Numista. There are 4 types. I believe my note is either P#163 or potentially P#164. Here’s what I’ve observed about my note:

- It is the ‘one denomination on reverse’ type

- It has as a serial # in red ink 

- The serial number format is LNNNNNNN. There is no two-digit numeric prefix before the letter. This is UNLIKE the example listed here for P#163 / N#212603

- The signatures are: Gerente - Milton Paz Cardozo (MPC) and Presidente - Gonzalo Ruiz Ballivián (GRB). However, both of these signatures are what I’ll refer to as “type 2” signatures; they are each somewhat different than the original ones listed. I could not find either of these signatures in this exact type in the Numista database.

- With all of the above data, my bill with “one denomination on reverse”, ”type 2” signature combination MPC/GRB, and LNNNNNNN serial # format in red is not a match to any Numista variant for this banknote. 

I’d love to learn more about how this bill fits into this series and help document it here. If I’ve missed something, please do let me know that as well. I have further thoughts on some finer details, but look forward to hearing with others have to say first. 

Thank you for any and all assistance!

References:

1. Bolivia note signatures thread: Add Signatures for Bolivia [Solved] - https://en.numista.com/forum/topic155260.html

2. Bolivia 100 Pesos P#164 - N#205344

3. Bolivia 100 Pesos P#163 - N#212603

Hello! In fact, there are many variants for this Bolivian issue of 100 Pesos Bolivianos (red serial).

As a rule, the numbering is made up of six digits and the prefix has variations (only one letter, one letter and one digit, two digits/one letter/one digit). In your case, the prefix is ​​Y9 and the numbering is 843028. It seems to me that it is the variant TBB#350r (Prefix: L5-11X; Intro: 1982). 

I have one of this type with prefix Y7; and it is the variant with the most registered users (perhaps, it is the most common). TBB has an entire page just with the variants for this note!

See if yours matches what I reported above.

Greetings,

Vladimir

- The signatures are: Gerente - Milton Paz Cardozo (MPC) and Presidente - Gonzalo Ruiz Ballivián (GRB).

+1

Looks like P-164b to me (the signatures, Y9 prefix & solid security strip). It does not look like P-163 to me.

It also looks like a misplaced signature printing error: signatures are well below the signature panel (on the lower border of the note). 

vladthiengo

Hello! In fact, there are many variants for this Bolivian issue of 100 Pesos Bolivianos (red serial).

 

As a rule, the numbering is made up of six digits and the prefix has variations (only one letter, one letter and one digit, two digits/one letter/one digit). In your case, the prefix is ​​Y9 and the numbering is 843028. It seems to me that it is the variant TBB#350r (Prefix: L5-11X; Intro: 1982). 

 

I have one of this type with prefix Y7; and it is the variant with the most registered users (perhaps, it is the most common). TBB has an entire page just with the variants for this note!

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Greetings,

Vladimir

Thanks for the response, Vladimir. Is it common to see different serial number prefixes grouped together in this way? E.g. “(Prefix: L5-11X; Intro: 1982)“.  I feel it is not as clear as it should be as these are different formats. Perhaps it’s just me! Thanks for the clarification. I can now properly classify this note.
 

What is your opinion regarding the different signatures? They are the same name but are visually different. Is this another common occurance that one should expect to see happen?

Kind regards,

CaliGoldCoins

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- The signatures are: Gerente - Milton Paz Cardozo (MPC) and Presidente - Gonzalo Ruiz Ballivián (GRB).

+1

Looks like P-164b to me (the signatures, Y9 prefix & solid security strip). It does not look like P-163 to me.

 

It also looks like a misplaced signature printing error: signatures are well below the signature panel (on the lower border of the note). 

Thank you for your input. Now that I understand how the serial number classifications are grouped, I will look at the type more closely when I add it to my Numista collection.

i definitely agree that the signature over print is misaligned. You can actually see the bottom of the signature from the previous note at the top of this one. 

caligoldcoins

Thanks for the response, Vladimir. Is it common to see different serial number prefixes grouped together in this way? E.g. “(Prefix: L5-11X; Intro: 1982)“.  I feel it is not as clear as it should be as these are different formats. Perhaps it’s just me! Thanks for the clarification. I can now properly classify this note.
 

What is your opinion regarding the different signatures? They are the same name but are visually different. Is this another common occurance that one should expect to see happen?

Hello, Cali. 

The organization of the Bolivian registers is more in line with the variation in signatures (which SCWPM did not do and TBB and Numista do).

Regarding the signatures, there are indeed some minor variations in the designs of some signatures on the Bolivian ones.

Have a great week! =)

Regards,

Vladimir