Strange Bahamas Forgery?

Hi all, 

Came across a rather strange listing on eBay for a 1966 Bahamas $2 coin but the obverse has the Queen Victoria Old Head effigy…

I assume that is some sort of strange counterfeit rather than an ultra super rare error from a period where neither the two should coincide!

Is this a known counterfeit coin? I'm almost tempted to buy it just for the sake of the novelty 🤣

 The eBay seller mixed up the pictures. 

The position of the staples is slightly different. 

ZacUK

 The eBay seller mixed up the pictures. 

I considered this as well but the listing for the coin is quite clear that it is a Queen Victoria Bahamas $2 coin, also the position of the staple on the images match on both sides of the coin flip. Not sure if I can post links to eBay listings on here  but I'm sure an admin can remove if not appropriate 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358109115722

Well, if it's counterfeit it's probably not silver, and they're listing it as silver.  So you could try your luck and return it if it's not.

Probably is silver.  One side of this N#10869 was machined out and a machined down one of these N#12800 inserted similar to those two headed coins people post here often. Could be $75 in silver there.

So there should be an Elizabeth with a St. George reverse out there somewhere?

rsirian1

Probably is silver.  One side of this N#10869 was machined out and a machined down one of these N#12800 inserted similar to those two headed coins people post here often. Could be $75 in silver there.

It's a waste of two very nice coins in their own right 😂 

I am half tempted to put in a bid and see what kind of Bahamian-British Frankenstein's Monster of a coin I receive 

1966 Bahama two dollar two sides ?  Def a strange one. But the more variations on the search you look for, the more variations you find.  This is not a one off, love Bahamas twos and this is the 3rd ive seen trying to buy for $40 on them no luck. Very little info out there.

So on a whim I decided to bid on the coin.  I won.  $38 plus $4.88 shipping.  

Got the coin yesterday. It is not silver. Weight 22.1 grams. Measured density in water. Got 8.48 g/cc instead of 10.36 g/cc for .925 silver. Went on ebay and noticed the seller stated Returns: Seller does not accept returns. Figuring I would be in for a fight I started a return with this message to the seller:

Item was described as Bahama $2 coin KM#9. It is not that coin. Size, weight does not match. 22.1 g vs. 29.8g and 39mm vs. 40mm.

Item was described as Silver fineness 0.925. Should be density 10.36 g/cc.  Density was measured (weight in water/weight out of water) as 8.48 g/cc. That makes it likely Cu-Ni not 0.925 silver.

Item was not affected on magnetic slide as a 0.925 silver coin would be.  It behaved like a Cu-Ni coin would.  Can provide videos if needed.

About 5 minutes later I got an email from Ebay that the seller had accepted the return request with this message from the seller:

Hey, I’m sorry about the confusion. I do not do water test density test. I could not find any information on the coin and it was not magnetic so I do apologize about the item being incorrect. I have sent you a label. Please return the item if you are unhappy, I tried to describe it the best I could but I suppose the 925 labels should not have been in the description. I hope we are able to resolve this quickly and you can bid with confidence again thank you.

He is sending me a return label and refunding to Pay Pal when he gets the coin back.  I'll be watching if he puts it back on sale.
 

Yeah the seller was @Canterbury17  and you fell right into his trap of advertising his eBay sales 😂

@rsirian1  as you are now the proud temporary owner, could you take an image of the edge to share?

The edge is unremarkable.  

I thought there might be a split on the Queen Victoria side but that no longer makes sense. Why put two Cu-Ni fakes together?

The coin was shipped from Buffalo, NY USA.

rsirian1

So on a whim I decided to bid on the coin.  I won.  $38 plus $4.88 shipping.  

        

Got the coin yesterday. It is not silver. Weight 22.1 grams. Measured density in water. Got 8.48 g/cc instead of 10.36 g/cc for .925 silver. Went on ebay and noticed the seller stated Returns: Seller does not accept returns. Figuring I would be in for a fight I started a return with this message to the seller:

 

Item was described as Bahama $2 coin KM#9. It is not that coin. Size, weight does not match. 22.1 g vs. 29.8g and 39mm vs. 40mm.

Item was described as Silver fineness 0.925. Should be density 10.36 g/cc.  Density was measured (weight in water/weight out of water) as 8.48 g/cc. That makes it likely Cu-Ni not 0.925 silver.

Item was not affected on magnetic slide as a 0.925 silver coin would be.  It behaved like a Cu-Ni coin would.  Can provide videos if needed.

 

About 5 minutes later I got an email from Ebay that the seller had accepted the return request with this message from the seller:

 

Hey, I’m sorry about the confusion. I do not do water test density test. I could not find any information on the coin and it was not magnetic so I do apologize about the item being incorrect. I have sent you a label. Please return the item if you are unhappy, I tried to describe it the best I could but I suppose the 925 labels should not have been in the description. I hope we are able to resolve this quickly and you can bid with confidence again thank you.

 

He is sending me a return label and refunding to Pay Pal when he gets the coin back.  I'll be watching if he puts it back on sale.
 

 

Haha! Amazing, I really hoped someone here would buy it. Glad it went through the whole test. Just don't know what would would go through a counterfeiters mindset to make such a weird coin in the first place. 

You've taken one for the team in the name of numismatics 

I thought the apology sounded rather sincere and the offer of the return label a a sign they would like to fix their mistake.