A question about foreign coins in CUBA in the early 20th century about

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The following pieces are talking about the coins before Cuban peso's introduction in 1915. I wonder what the coins that individually worth 90 cents(gold spanish dollar),80 cents(silver spanish dollar),60301263 cents(peso, half peso, peseta, real, half real),and 84/17/8 cents are.

 

I would like to find their physical patterns,thanks.(someone claims that the so-called Cuban peso(probably refers to the $ in the texts) is actually a virtual rather than a physical one that correspond a real coin)

Not sure exactly what you are inquiring about due to something getting lost in tranlation but I will try to give you a broad explanation based on what I believe you are asking. My answer applies to colonies or possessions such as Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines. At one time they were Spanish Colonies.  After the Spanish American war, the U.S. aquired the Philippines, Puerto Rico, and Guam, while Spain renounced all claims to Cuba. In addition, each of these former Spanish Possessions were administered differently by the U.S. Commonwealth, U.S. administered, Colony, or Independent and each had it's own outcome. Specifically Cuba was now technically Independent but largely dependent on the U.S due to proximity, economy, and commerce. Both the U.S. and Spain were responsible for each territories currency, monetary system, and production of the respective currencies. In each case, the Cuban or Philippine currency could not be worth more than the ruling country's currency and would be assigned only a fraction of the host counties currency. For instance the Philippine Peso would only be worth a fraction of the U.S. Dollar regardless of composition. Similarily, the Cuban Peso was worth only a fraction of the Spanish Reales or Peso. After all, who was the ruling authority at the time? Hope that answers your question.

very interesting. thanks for sharing.

I hope to learn more.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

As per the texts shown, I think the coins mentioned are:

Spanish Gold Dollar, (25 Pesetas) “Alfonsino” 

N#14830

N#17627

Spanish Silver Peso, (5 pesetas)

N#3736 

N#2553 

N#14843 

N#4009 

N#10781 

N#10782 

Spanish Peseta (1 Peseta)

N#15606 

N#5581 

N#18488 

N#18167 

N#6275 

Spanish Real (½ Peseta)

N#14295 

N#18485 

N#18486 

N#14876 

and copper and bronze Spanish coins

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=spain&r=&st=1-2&cat=y&im1=&im2=&ru=&ie=&no=&v=&cu=&a=&dg=1877-1900&i=&b=&m=np&f=&t=&t2=&w=&mt=&u=&g=&c=&wi=&sw= 

French (20 Francs) “Louis”

N#3654 

N#7022 

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Thanks for that new data adanieluy. 

new information for me - Spanish Gold Dollar, (25 Pesetas) “Alfonsino”  

Why is the gold 25 peseta called  ‘dollar’? the pages in Numista no where say dollar.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

The Kleeberg book has some information about coins that have been found in Cuba. It is not about Cuban coins or foreign coins in Cuba, but there are some coin finds listed and described in there. Maybe it could help?

 

http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/results?q=geographic_facet:"Asbury%20Park%20(N.J.)"

Хочу всё знать!

Mr. Midnight

Thanks for that new data adanieluy. 

new information for me - Spanish Gold Dollar, (25 Pesetas) “Alfonsino”  

Why is the gold 25 peseta called  ‘dollar’? the pages in Numista no where say dollar.

 

I think the essence of this entire inquiry was the question of “no Cuban currency” because at the end of the Spanish American war it was now the U.S. dictating how debts would be paid by the New Cuban Government who did not yet have native currency but was using primarily Spanish currency. In 1898 the U.S. was now setting the monetary exchange equivalent of the defeated Colonial powers currency to the U.S. Dollar and devaluing currencies used  by Cuba. “At the values set forth”. Yes, accepting gold and silver Spanish and French currency/bullion coins at deflated value or pay the debts in the stronger U.S. Dollars which Cuba did not have by design. Bottom line, U.S. dollars now or at the eqivalencies set forth by the U.S.

Here are three articles talking about how managed at Cuba before mintage of coins. It is copied from "La Moneda de Cuba, by José maría Aledón. They may exoplain a bit the reasons of the mentioned resolutions, specially the last one.

 

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excellent. thank you sir.

I am now looking for La Moneda de Cuba, by José maría Aledón in the book fairs.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

Mr. Midnight

excellent. thank you sir.

I am now looking for La Moneda de Cuba, by José maría Aledón in the book fairs.

 

https://numismatica2rey.com/producto/la-moneda-de-cuba/ 

https://antiquecoins.world/cuba-coins/la-moneda-de-cuba-by-jose-maria-aledon-1999/ 

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Thanks again!

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

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