Large & small 20?

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Hello!

 

Is there anyone here who could tell me if both varieties actually exist? If so, how can you identify which one is which? The pictures in the comments section don't help (me) much…

I had the same problem and still have no idea. I don't see any difference in the picture.

So, as a referee, if no one has this clear, would you be for merging the two entries, if possible? 

 

I don't think it makes sense to have two different entries if no one can tell them apart (except for the Australian catalogue 😅).

Hi, 

 

there is a difference although very very difficult to recognize, the 2 and 0 on the “small” date is slightly more narrow!

 

So the extra year line is there to stay, please.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Especially difficult with dark, distorted, and out of focus photos possibly from a worn coin that has flattened the 20. Find an example where the difference is and can be shown clearly. Nothing is proven with the photo provided even with the light altered.

@Sjoelund

 

I have 2 coins of this type and, to my eyes, they both have the same 20, but no clue wich one it is. 

 

Would you have by any chance the 2 varieties? Otherwise, and if no one has them, wouldn't it be better to merge the two entries, and leave the comments section for the variety, if needed?

 

I know you (and many others) are a thorough varieties collector, but in a case like this one, I'd see no harm in merging. At least, until someone could provide some clear pictures, so anybody could see the difference. 

 

I find it quite frustrating to have to pick an option blindly, and that happens way too often here.

12 coin pictures on Ucoin. All 12 like this:

or this

 

Not enough to say there is a difference IMO.

Hmmm… Could it be that the larger 20 is closer to the two nearly central sun rays, flanking the shortest central one? Just speculating…

If you have to guess….

Here's 3 more:

           

That's how it looks to me, hence my mention of more narrow.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Sorry, I am looking everywhere but simply can not find any evidence nor anybody anywhere who makes this claim nor corroborates it except for Numista. As far as I am concerned it is simply yet another erroneous Numista entry that is not factual or educational and only adds confusion to the page.  But If I am looking really really hard I can sometimes see Elvis in the clouds as well. 

Perhaps the 34% of the Numista members to claim to possess one can show us their example. 

I might have found a difference, but the second picture is a bit blurry so I have to research more.

The first picture has a 2 with square top, the second picture has a 2 with rounded top:

In this picture on the coin page they both look like square.

Maybe that's the reason why most of us don't see a difference there.

I have several of these coins, I'll see if I can found a difference there.

rsirian1

If you have to guess….

Here's 3 more:

           

What is the dot left under the 2 on the leftmost image?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Harrykeepthechange

Sorry, I am looking everywhere but simply can not find any evidence nor anybody anywhere who makes this claim nor corroborates it except for Numista. As far as I am concerned it is simply yet another erroneous Numista entry that is not factual or educational and only adds confusion to the page.  But If I am looking really really hard I can sometimes see Elvis in the clouds as well. 

Perhaps the 34% of the Numista members to claim to possess one can show us their example. 

I found this from the Greysheet site, but the links are no longer valid:

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Essor Prof

I might have found a difference, but the second picture is a bit blurry so I have to research more.

The first picture has a 2 with square top, the second picture has a 2 with rounded top:

On the left image the 2 is “far” from the sun ray (thus the small, narrow date)? On the right image the 2 is near to the same sun ray (large, wide date)?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

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