Old Korean Brass Mun [Resolvido]

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numismaticroy

Ingressou: 14 Mai 2011
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Publicado: 7 Jun 2014, 18:22 #

I am having difficulties tracking down this coin which I believe is from Korea and would appreciate help in identifying it.

Metal Brass
Weight 5.05g
Size 25.00mm
Thickness 1.60mm

Thanks
Roy

ZuluRaptorSpace

Ingressou: 3 Jun 2013
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Publicado: 7 Jun 2014, 18:25 #

Not in catalog.

ZuluRaptorSpace

Ingressou: 3 Jun 2013
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Publicado: 7 Jun 2014, 18:27 #

Similar to this.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41946.html

KennyG

Ingressou: 25 Abr 2010
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Publicado: 8 Jun 2014, 01:54 #

Says "Taiping Rebellion (peace heaven)" so not Korean, just another charm.

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niclas-64

Ingressou: 20 Jun 2012
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Publicado: 13 Jun 2014, 15:25 #

HI

Isn't it possible that it could be Tai Ping Tian Guo / Sheng Bao coin. 1 cash from Taiping rebellion in China 1860 -62

Catalogue number Hartill 23.10 / FD 2669/ S1605

The reverse Sheng bao is difficult to read and I'm in doubt there - maybe

Niclas

cyprusalexander

Ingressou: 4 Nov 2013
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Publicado: 13 Jun 2014, 16:16 #

Looks like not so common rebel coin

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numismaticroy

Ingressou: 14 Mai 2011
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Publicado: 14 Jun 2014, 17:37 #

Citação: niclas-64HI

Isn't it possible that it could be Tai Ping Tian Guo / Sheng Bao coin. 1 cash from Taiping rebellion in China 1860 -62

Catalogue number Hartill 23.10 / FD 2669/ S1605

The reverse Sheng bao is difficult to read and I'm in doubt there - maybe

Niclas

Thanks - I googled your suggestion and came up with the following link

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k137045.jpg&retpage=17183

Roy

KennyG

Ingressou: 25 Abr 2010
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Publicado: 14 Jun 2014, 20:38 #

They aren't the same characters, the one you found says 聖寶, which literally means 'saint money' in Japanese... can't read Roy's though.

Kenny

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numismaticroy

Ingressou: 14 Mai 2011
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Publicado: 14 Jun 2014, 23:17 #

Citação: SmartOneKgThey aren't the same characters, the one you found says 聖寶, which literally means 'saint money' in Japanese... can't read Roy's though.

Hi Kenny
The characters on the reverse of my coin are identical to those in the following web link (as you indicate the second character is not 寶) Is it possible to find the 2nd character shown on the web link?

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k137045.jpg&retpage=17183

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Ingressou: 27 Dez 2011
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Publicado: 14 Jun 2014, 23:53 #

As kenny said, this is not Korean coin.

太平天囯 Wiki.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom

KennyG

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Publicado: 15 Jun 2014, 03:31 #

Citação: numismaticroyThe characters on the reverse of my coin are identical to those in the following web link (as you indicate the second character is not 寶) Is it possible to find the 2nd character shown on the web link?

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=k137045.jpg&retpage=17183

Hi Roy, I don't think I was clear. The link to the British Museum shows the characters "聖寶" but your coin does not. The characters are too blurry (and I don't know enough Chinese) to read the characters. I'm sure someone else might be able to read them, but I can guarantee they aren't the same coin.

Kenny

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numismaticroy

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Publicado: 15 Jun 2014, 09:17 #

Kenny
Thanks for you patience with me on this one.

I have tried to get an improved photo and reproduce the coin the same way up as the Museum image.

Hopefully this will help in identifying the lower of the two characters. To me having the advantage of being able to see the actual coin, the two characters do look the same, but I have no command of Chinese at all!!!

Roy

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Publicado: 15 Jun 2014, 15:52 #

It look the same after you upside-down the picture of reverse side to medal alignment.

聖寶 - Saint Bao
Bao - The Qing Dynasty coins be known as Bao
so 聖寶 means holy money

cyprusalexander

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Publicado: 15 Jun 2014, 23:47 #

Congratulations anyway! I dream to hold one day the rebel coins

I always looked for them

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fliegendehollander

Ingressou: 22 Jun 2010
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Publicado: 16 Jun 2014, 09:55 #

So jealous. The vertical Shengbao is much rarer than my horizontal one.

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numismaticroy

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Publicado: 16 Jun 2014, 10:34 #

Citação: fliegendehollanderSo jealous. The vertical Shengbao is much rarer than my horizontal one.

Could you post a copy of your horizontal one because I don't know the difference

Thanks
Roy

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Publicado: 16 Jun 2014, 17:14 #

numismaticroy

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Publicado: 16 Jun 2014, 17:46 #

Thanks
It is a lovely coin and I now know the difference between vertical and horizontal.

Roy

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