megabacon
Ingressou: 21 Jul 2018
Publicações: 8
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 02:59
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Closest I could find, but the outer ring markings don't match, and neither does the center dot symbol:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15604.html
CassTaylor
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:34
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:34
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Hello,
Yours is a Henan 汴 10 Cash.
Your coin is probably a provincial issue (hence the difference in the outer ring characters from the link you gave) rather than a Central issue from Peking, probably not listed here yet.
megabacon
Ingressou: 21 Jul 2018
Publicações: 8
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:39
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:39
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You said to use Franglaise, so: merci a lot!
CassTaylor
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:41
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:41
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Citação: "megabacon" You said to use Franglaise, so: merci a lot!No, it says I am one.
But glad I could help!
megabacon
Ingressou: 21 Jul 2018
Publicações: 8
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:43
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:43
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Well, merci beaucoup then!
Cycnos
Ingressou: 22 Abr 2017
Publicações: 3089
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:52
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 04:52
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I still don't understand why they put those ideograms instead of the minting authority : if the mint is Henan so it's necessarily a provincial issue.
I don't think the Board of revenue minted the Henan coins ; that doesn't make sense.
Cycnos
Ingressou: 22 Abr 2017
Publicações: 3089
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:13
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:13
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Morever I don't find other coins with those ideograms on the web :s
CassTaylor
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:18
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:18
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Citação: "Cycnos" Morever I don't find other coins with those ideograms on the web :sI actually think the Henan attribution is a mistake; the central character is an indication of the cycle, not place of minting.
I have found coins with those ideograms on the outer ring (亥辛) on Numista, and turns out they're from Sinkiang province:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42028.html
So maybe that's the answer, and unlisted provincial type of the 10 Cash.
megabacon
Ingressou: 21 Jul 2018
Publicações: 8
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:26
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:26
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All right; I made a listing with your new provincial suggestion. Best I could do! Thank you for your help!
megabacon
Ingressou: 21 Jul 2018
Publicações: 8
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:28
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:28
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Citação: "Cycnos" Morever I don't find other coins with those ideograms on the web :sYeah, I was confused too!
CassTaylor
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:40
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 05:40
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Citação: "megabacon" All right; I made a listing with your new provincial suggestion. Best I could do! Thank you for your help!
Cycnos
Ingressou: 22 Abr 2017
Publicações: 3089
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 06:25
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 06:25
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Citação: "CassTaylor"
Citação: "Cycnos" Morever I don't find other coins with those ideograms on the web :s I actually think the Henan attribution is a mistake; the central character is an indication of the cycle, not place of minting.
I have found coins with those ideograms on the outer ring (亥辛) on Numista, and turns out they're from Sinkiang province:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42028.html
So maybe that's the answer, and unlisted provincial type of the 10 Cash.In this case, that makes sense now, thanks
bbybugs
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Ingressou: 27 Dez 2011
Publicações: 793
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 06:45
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 06:45
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Henan 10 cash
Y# 20g
ps.
汴, another name for Kaifeng City, Henan Province, China
辛亥 is year 1911
CassTaylor
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 08:30
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 08:30
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Citação: "bbybugs" Henan 10 cash
Y# 20g
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汴, another name for Kaifeng City, Henan Province, China
辛亥 is year 1911
Wait, so it's the other way around, the inner symbol indicates place of minting and the outer ones indicate year?
Y#20g is here, but there is no 汴 listed on Numista, only a line for 河:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces26115.html
EDIT: Okay, I figured it out. I mistook the symbols on the sides for the minting authority, which is the case in the
Peking issues (戶部), but actually correspond to (for example, 1906) the Chinese year symbols 午丙.
bbybugs
Árbitro de catálogo
Ingressou: 27 Dez 2011
Publicações: 793
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 13:54
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 13:54
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河 is wrong, It should be 汴
I've requested to modify our catalog.
picture of 己酉 (1909) 汴 - Krause
megabacon
Ingressou: 21 Jul 2018
Publicações: 8
Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 18:58
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Publicado: 29 Jul 2018, 18:58
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I requested that my new submission be deleted, as the listing already exists under 亥 辛 Y#20g (1911), as bbybugs pointed out. Thanks everyone.
Answer: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces26115.html
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