Szeląg litewski - Jan II

Hello colleagues.
I need help, there are many variations. This is for an experienced eye expert on this kind of coins. Then I can write the weight, the size- rather, it is about identifying the mint and the type of coin.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces119349.html
1661
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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces119301.html 1661 ?
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Thank you.
Ivan

please ask these members:
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=62681
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=8154

There's a wonderful catalogue of these coins: https://numimarket.pl/katalog-boratynek-jana-kazimierza_463452

Citação: "gdrsb"​There's a wonderful catalogue of these coins: https://numimarket.pl/katalog-boratynek-jana-kazimierza_463452

​Yes indeed, I have it; but it is far from complete as still new variants are found.
This book (in polish) has thousends of pictures. and details!

Very nice catalog and not expencive.
Quality printing

Citação: "PetrusAscanus"​

Citação: "gdrsb"​There's a wonderful catalogue of these coins: https://numimarket.pl/katalog-boratynek-jana-kazimierza_463452

​​Yes indeed, I have it; but it is far from complete as still new variants are found.
​This book (in polish) has thousends of pictures. and details!
​
​Very nice catalog and not expencive.
​Quality printing

​Thank you rescuers,, gdrsb,, +,,PetrusAscanus,,
Thank you very much for your interest.
Certainly agree, the special catalog is always the most useful. I came out of these sources and I was little confusel
https://ulozto.cz/!miSeMa8i/numismatika-katalog-minci-1601-1700-by-cvak-pdf

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces119349.html
and this brand sits:


and this confused me: ( that brand in "numista" good and in the world catalog wrong)

Thank you and hello
Ivan

this is the link to catalog 1600-1700
https://uloz.to/hledej?q=katalog+minc%C3%AD+1600-1700
I hope you can download it.
Ivan

More information about these coins in Polish: http://blognumizmatyczny.pl/2016/11/14/boratynki-wszystkie-mennice-i-wszystkie-roczniki/