unknown asian coins

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approx. 1.18 grams / 17 mm

approx. 1.38 grams / 16 mm

also, if you can tell, what is the correct orientation?
Thanks!
The second is Golden Horde 753 AH. Dang. Jani Beg khan. Gulistan

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces134608.html

First picture is upside down
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Thanks Grinya!

I updated my collection.

Is the first coin too worn to identify other than it's orientation? I can take more photos if it would help.

thanks!
Possibly you can find the first coin on Zeno among Golden Horde coins.
I'd start research from Bulghar mint, but I'm not sure))
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Using the very helpful suggestions of Grinya, I found a couple of similar coins in Zeno, though perhaps not exact matches

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=147474

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=183203

I would say your coin looks like a silver dang of the Juchid (Golden Horde), Toqtamish, 782-797 AH, Qrim mint

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