Ceylon: Pandya Influence (ca. 830-918 CE) AE Unit (Mitchiner 816-18)
Obv: Humped bull seated right with lamps on either side; crescent above and stand below in dotted circle
Rev: Two fishes horizontal, upper facing right and lower left between two lamps; crescent above and stand below represented by three parallel lines, the middle one being shorter than the other two
Citação: "druzhynets"You're the only one with this date on the swaplist, but overall there are 117 members who have this date.
I didn't say it is a rare coin. I've only said it's not as common as you would think because I'm the only one with this date on the exchange list.
Yes, I know what you mean, I only added some more statistic info. This coin isn't rare but it's not that common on Numista - there are thousands of members here and only 117 have this date.
Citação: "druzhynets"Yes, I know what you mean, I only added some more statistic info. This coin isn't rare but it's not that common on Numista - there are thousands of members here and only 117 have this date.
With a mintage of 2,000,000 I would have expected much more owners (in their collections and in the exchange lists). So I was a bit surprised by those low numbers when I added the coin yesterday.
With a combined mintage of more than 27,000,000 for this type there is only 1 coin in the exchange lists for the whole type, and with a rarity index of 55 I guess something between 40 and 50 members (?) own this coin. Again, very surprising, but I'm glad I have one, although it's not in the best condition.
Krause (and other catalogues) provide mintages enough, but we very seldom have an idea how many coins actually came in circulation or how high the percentage of coins is that were delivered back to the Mint after demonetization.
That's true - usually we have no information on how many coins were melted after demonetisation and also we won't ever know how many of the coins just got lost and they lie somewhere in the ground.
Numista's statistics aren't exact enough even for... Numista itself. There are a lot of members who collect by type only and usually fill all the years for given type, that's why it's harder to know precisely who possess given type of coin and who don't.
Citação: "druzhynets"That's true - usually we have no information on how many coins were melted after demonetisation and also we won't ever know how many of the coins just got lost and they lie somewhere in the ground.
The Belgian Catalogue (Morin) provides the percentages of the coins that didn't return to the Mint after demonetisation for almost every type.
And there are big differences, for instance:
Just wondering if anybody was sorting out the different types of every denomination before "destruction", as the 1 centime coin had 5 types (3 kings and 2 languages for the last 2 kings), or is it an overall return-rate for all types of a certain denomination?
Just call me Bram
No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
I just splurged and bought an 1803 cent and 1803 half cent. Nothing great condition, but good enough to be readable, will post pictures when they arrive. Not sure I'll be able to afford any older US coins without saving my pennies (modern ones that is) for quite some time. Unless somebody feels generous and wants to sell me a 1793 half cent for about $100?
Another day, another hoard. Lets see if you can identify the types. I will probably be spending a few weeks on this one. Photographing, attributing, and then selling off the duplicates...
Followed up with one that already exists in my collection for comparison:
Cilician Armenia: Levon I (1198-1219) AE Tank (Nercessian-303)
Obv: Crowned bust of leonine king. Six dots in the crown. Armenian legend around +ԼԵՒՈՆ ԹԱԳԱՒՈՐ ՀԱՅՈՑ (Levon, King of Armenians)
Rev: Greek cross, with stars in the field beneath. Armenian legend around +ՇԻՆԵԱԼ Ի ՔԱՂԱՔՍ Ի ՍԻՍ Ի (By the Will of God)
Byzantine Empire: Michael VII Ducas (1071-1078) Æ Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1878; DOC-14b)
Obv: Bust of Christ Pantokrator facing, bearded, with cross behind, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised before breast in blessing, left hand holds book from beneath. In field, IC and XC above lateral arms of cross; six-pointed stars beneath them to left and right
Rev: +MIX AHΛ RACIOΔ; Crowned bust of Michael facing, bearded, wearing modified loros with collar-piece and crown with cross and pendilia, holding in right hand labarum, in left globus cruciger
Byzantine Empire: Leo VI the Wise (886-912) Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1730)
Obv: Leo VI and Alexander, each crowned and wearing loros, seated facing on double throne, holding labarum between them. Legend around - + LEOn S ALEXAnGROS.
Rev: Legend in four lines - + LEOn S ALEXAnGROS bASIL' ROmEOn
Citação: "Quant-Geek"Another one identified...
And the one that already exists:
Byzantine Empire: Michael VII Ducas (1071-1078) Æ Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1878; DOC-14b)
Obv: Bust of Christ Pantokrator facing, bearded, with cross behind, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised before breast in blessing, left hand holds book from beneath. In field, IC and XC above lateral arms of cross; six-pointed stars beneath them to left and right
Rev: +MIX AHΛ RACIOΔ; Crowned bust of Michael facing, bearded, wearing modified loros with collar-piece and crown with cross and pendilia, holding in right hand labarum, in left globus cruciger
I would definitely not mess with this Christ and this Michael. They both look so angry.
Citação: "Quant-Geek"Another one identified...
And the one that already exists:
Byzantine Empire: Michael VII Ducas (1071-1078) Æ Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1878; DOC-14b)
Obv: Bust of Christ Pantokrator facing, bearded, with cross behind, wearing tunic and himation; right hand raised before breast in blessing, left hand holds book from beneath. In field, IC and XC above lateral arms of cross; six-pointed stars beneath them to left and right
Rev: +MIX AHΛ RACIOΔ; Crowned bust of Michael facing, bearded, wearing modified loros with collar-piece and crown with cross and pendilia, holding in right hand labarum, in left globus cruciger
I would definitely not mess with this Christ and this Michael. They both look so angry.
Oh, there are some really wicked-looking Christ coins out there . Some of them look like Rasputin. This one isn't too bad.
Obv: RWMAN bASILEVS RWM; Crowned, bearded, facing bust of Romanus, wearing chlamys, holding labarum and cross on globe
Rev: RWMA - N EN QEW bA - SILEVS RW-MAIWN; Legend in four lines
Obv: +ЄMMA NOVHA; Nimbused Christ standing facing on footstool; IC XC to left and right
Rev: +ΚШΝΤΔΚ ЄVΔΚΑVΓΟ; Eudocia and Constantine standing facing, holding between them a labarum with a cross on shaft set upon three steps
Citação: "Quant-Geek"If you don't like these posts, let me know and I'll stop .
No! Please don't stop! Keep them coming! It's fascinating. I do have a question for you though... Out of curiosity, what attracted you to this lot of coins when it seems there are a lot you already have (and the ones you have look phenomenal).
Citação: "Quant-Geek"If you don't like these posts, let me know and I'll stop .
No! Please don't stop! Keep them coming! It's fascinating. I do have a question for you though... Out of curiosity, what attracted you to this lot of coins when it seems there are a lot you already have (and the ones you have look phenomenal).
That is a great question! Why would I purchase a lot where most of the coins in them are of lower grade than what I have? Sometimes, you can end up with a gem and you don't know it. That is what I was hoping for and the cost of the lot was far less per coin wise than what could be purchased as a single coin. For the coins I don't want, I can easy sell them for 2 to 4 times the cost I bought it for! That means more funds to purchase more coins . Its definitely a gamble, but you hope you at least break even. It doesn't always happen that way and you hope you losses aren't too much...
Citação: "Quant-Geek"Here is another one:
And one that already exists in my collection:
Byzantine Empire: Leo VI the Wise (886-912) Æ Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1729; DOC 8)
Obv.: +LEON bASILEVS ROM; crowned bust facing with short beard, wearing chlamys, holding akakia.
Rev.: +LEON / EN QEO bA / SILEVS R / OMEON
And here are the results. There were 6 of these coins in the lot in varying grades, so here are three of them from the lot. All six of them are going to be sold on ebay. But it is too tempting to keep them all ...
Another one from the lot which I don't seem to have, at least, this particular type. Very tempting to keep....
Cilician Armenia: Hetoum I (1226-1270) Æ Tank (Nercessian 354; Bedoukian 1352)
Obv: ՀԵԹՈՒՄ ԹԱԳԱՒՈՐ ՀԱՅՈՑ (Hetoum, King of Armenians); King seated facing on a bench-like throne, holding a scepter in the right hand and a globus cruciger in the left
Rev: +ՇԻՆԵԱԼ Ի ՔԱՂԱՔՆ Ի ՍԻՍ (Struck in the city of Sis); Latin cross with lines in four quadrants
And another one from the lot. This one is a bit tough to get a precise attribution as I can't read the ornamentation on the Gospels and the reverse top and bottom, so this will have to do...
Byzantine Empire: Æ Anonymous Class A3 Follis, Attributed to Basil II & Constantine VIII (ca. 1020-1028) Constantinople Mint (Sear-1818; DOC A2.16)
Obv: +ЄMMA-NOVHΛ; IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing with nimbate cross behind head, • • in each limb of nimbus cross, holding book of gospels
Rev: + IҺSЧS / XRISTЧS / ЬASILЄЧ / ЬASILЄ in four lines; above and below, unknown ornamentation
and comparing a similar one that already exists in my collection:
Today's arrival in the mail... Quite happy with it! (I have to find anything I want online, I have no local coin shops). Something I didn't see in the pictures before I bought this (guess I just didn't look close enough) are those punch marks on the reverse right side, that translate to high wear spots on the obverse. Even so, it's a nice addition to my collection :)
It's now my oldest US coin (I've got greeks and romans that are definitely older, I mean US coins). But soon to be tied with an 1803 half cent that should arrive any day now
yeah yeah, nothing as cool as Quant-geek's coins...
Obv: Crowned facing bust, holding cruciform scepter and globus cruciger
Rev: Jeweled cross with central X and globe at each extremity; C-Φ/AΛ-Δ in angles
You know the drill, another keeper from the lot...
Byzantine Empire: Manuel I Comnenus (1143-1180) Æ Half Tetarteron, Thessalonica (Sear-1978; DOC 21)
Obv: Facing bust of Christ Emmanuel, raising right hand in benediction, holding volumen in left
Rev: ΜΛΝϪΗΛ ΔЄC ΠΟΤΗ; Manuel standing facing, holding cruciform scepter and globus cruciger
Byzantine Empire: Æ Anonymous Class I Follis, Attributed to Nicephorus III (Sear-1889, DOC I.1-64)
Obv: Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator
Rev: Latin cross with central X and globus and two pellets at the end of each extremity; crescents to upper left and right, floral scroll below
The first 3 are a set of Icelandic 1930 10, 2, and 5 Kronur.
In 1929 the government decided to commemorate 1000 years of the 'Althing' or Icelandic parliament, so tendered out a contract which the Saxon state mint won.
They are strictly speaking coins, though I think they are considered more medals now. The obverse on both the 2 and 10 krone depict the 4 Landvættir, or 'great guardians of iceland' - Each of them protected one quarter of the land according to the sagas.
The last one is a 1892 5 Shillings 'double shaft' from the ZAR
Thanks!! It's clearly been cleaned, but it's NOT been mounted, which is very rare to impossible to find amongst the double shaft ZAR Crowns. Not sure how many survive of the original 4000 odd minted, as Kruger got into quite some trouble for it.
If you don't know the story, the SA mint wasn't up and running yet, so he asked a foreign mint to produce the coins. However the wagons on the coin had a double shaft and wheels all the same size like the dutch, and not like the South African 'Voortrekken' wagons - Obviously this caused quite some consternation amongst the settlers, and it was quickly fixed to the single shaft type with properly large rear wheels!
Thanks!! It's clearly been cleaned, but it's NOT been mounted, which is very rare to impossible to find amongst the double shaft ZAR Crowns. Not sure how many survive of the original 4000 odd minted, as Kruger got into quite some trouble for it.
If you don't know the story, the SA mint wasn't up and running yet, so he asked a foreign mint to produce the coins. However the wagons on the coin had a double shaft and wheels all the same size like the dutch, and not like the South African 'Voortrekken' wagons - Obviously this caused quite some consternation amongst the settlers, and it was quickly fixed to the single shaft type with properly large rear wheels!
I collect African coins and never heared this story ! thank you very much !
Citação: "oggy"The first 3 are a set of Icelandic 1930 10, 2, and 5 Kronur.
In 1929 the government decided to commemorate 1000 years of the 'Althing' or Icelandic parliament, so tendered out a contract which the Saxon state mint won.
They are strictly speaking coins, though I think they are considered more medals now. The obverse on both the 2 and 10 krone depict the 4 Landvættir, or 'great guardians of iceland' - Each of them protected one quarter of the land according to the sagas.
The last one is a 1892 5 Shillings 'double shaft' from the ZAR
Beautiful coins... congratulations ! I especially like the icelandic coins. I'd like to grab them some day (unfortunately they are quite rare and/or expensive) ! I like the design, especially the first one. If I remember right, the face value is on the edge, which is making them coins stricto sensu ? I think i read that once but not sure. If that so, i do not have any example on mind of other coins whose face value is located on the edge.
Again, congrats and thanks for sharing !!
Got my 1803 half cent today! Second lowest mintage of the 8 year run of Draped Bust half cents, just 92,000.
Compared with the 1803 penny I got yesterday. I paid quite a bit more for the half cent than the cent even though it's worse condition, but 92.000 half's for that year, vs 3,131,691 for the cent.
Citação: "sc.rednek"Got my 1803 half cent today! Second lowest mintage of the 8 year run of Draped Bust half cents, just 92,000.
Compared with the 1803 penny I got yesterday. I paid quite a bit more for the half cent than the cent even though it's worse condition, but 92.000 half's for that year, vs 3,131,691 for the cent.
Very nice! I have been meaning to start collecting US large cents and half cents for a while, but been postponing it. Very tempting, indeed. If I do start, it will just be a type set though and I wouldnt go crazy. I already have type sets for the small cents from my childhood collection. Maybe I should start taking pics of my "modern" coinage one of these days. Most of that collection resembles what most of the numista collectors collect. Was too cash strapped in those days to buy big ticket items. Most of that was pocket change and stuff I picked up at the local coin shop for a few cents of a dollar...
Citação: "Quant-Geek"Very nice! I have been meaning to start collecting US large cents and half cents for a while, but been postponing it. Very tempting, indeed. If I do start, it will just be a type set though and I wouldnt go crazy. I already have type sets for the small cents from my childhood collection. Maybe I should start taking pics of my "modern" coinage one of these days. Most of that collection resembles what most of the numista collectors collect...
Thank you!
Good luck with 1793, unless you're much richer than me! My goal is all the non-gold US types back to 1800, not rich enough for those back to 1793. On the way I have an 1814 cent (coming home from germany, and 17 days later it's nearly hear, last scan showed it in Chattanooga) and 1853 half cent (Coming from a russian place, 14 days and tracking still shows it in the russian post). There's only one version of the coronet head half cent, unlike 2 types for the one cent.
So yeah my type collection is coming along, here's the copper/bronze, those two gaps are getting filled once they arrive.
Here is an example of a coin from my childhood that I just opened from its 2x2 flip. It has been sealed in that flip for well over 35 years! It was from my late dad's collection. He passed away when I was 11 years old and it was about the time I started collecting. My mom gave me his collection (a bag full of coins), which included several US silver coins, including Morgan Dollars, 20th century dimes, quarters and half dollars as well as several foreign coins which is where this is from. I went to the local coin shop and purchased a bunch of 2x2 flips to store these coins as well as my flinging collection. This collection is worth more than any of the coins I have accumulated in my collection in the past 35 years! Its monetary value is small, , but emotionally it is priceless to me. I wouldn't sell this to anyone nor would I replace it will a better quality one...
Quite a few of my coins I got from my grandfather (who is still alive thankfully!) like 5 morgan dollars, 4 walking liberty and 8 franklin halves, and a lot of Roosevelt and Washington silvers.
EPNS silver victorian sugar shaker
Paavo väyrynen fantasy issue/token 10 markkaa (Bought that I can add it to numista) weak strike
and...just buying: 1 mark german empire
Citação: "oggy"The first 3 are a set of Icelandic 1930 10, 2, and 5 Kronur.
In 1929 the government decided to commemorate 1000 years of the 'Althing' or Icelandic parliament, so tendered out a contract which the Saxon state mint won.
They are strictly speaking coins, though I think they are considered more medals now. The obverse on both the 2 and 10 krone depict the 4 Landvættir, or 'great guardians of iceland' - Each of them protected one quarter of the land according to the sagas.
The last one is a 1892 5 Shillings 'double shaft' from the ZAR
Beautiful coins... congratulations ! I especially like the icelandic coins. I'd like to grab them some day (unfortunately they are quite rare and/or expensive) ! I like the design, especially the first one. If I remember right, the face value is on the edge, which is making them coins stricto sensu ? I think i read that once but not sure. If that so, i do not have any example on mind of other coins whose face value is located on the edge.
Again, congrats and thanks for sharing !!
Thanks! Yep, the first one is the one I wanted (as well as the 2Kr somewhat, but it was a lot of the 3 in their original boxes, so I picked them up. Might sell the 5Kr.
The denominations are indeed on the edge, and it was an officially authorised coin, however as far as I'm aware none of them were able to be used for payment. (I think the 2KR went into very limited circulation, but that's it) They are 'rare' so much as in pretty high demand due to the design I'd say. 10,000 were minted of each, and it's probable that 90%+ of that still survive in the hands of collectors in great condition. You can pick up the 10Kr for the price of a sovereign/random 8g gold coin quite easily and it'll hold its value just fine due to desirability, so it's a fairly safe addition to the collection from a financial standpoint.
Citação: "Quant-Geek"Very nice! I have been meaning to start collecting US large cents and half cents for a while, but been postponing it. Very tempting, indeed. If I do start, it will just be a type set though and I wouldnt go crazy. I already have type sets for the small cents from my childhood collection. Maybe I should start taking pics of my "modern" coinage one of these days. Most of that collection resembles what most of the numista collectors collect...
Thank you!
Good luck with 1793, unless you're much richer than me! My goal is all the non-gold US types back to 1800, not rich enough for those back to 1793. On the way I have an 1814 cent (coming home from germany, and 17 days later it's nearly hear, last scan showed it in Chattanooga) and 1853 half cent (Coming from a russian place, 14 days and tracking still shows it in the russian post). There's only one version of the coronet head half cent, unlike 2 types for the one cent.
So yeah my type collection is coming along, here's the copper/bronze, those two gaps are getting filled once they arrive.
As someone who's also constructing an American type set but doesn't live in the USA, I'm finding it extremely difficult to even find anything from before 1830, in even very fine condition or below. Anything before the 1830s Capped Bust series run is impossible to find in my experience, and while I have been able to handle some Flowing Hair and Draped Bust coins over here, I could never afford them with the budget I have.
I've practically given up trying to shatter what I've termed the '1830 ceiling' in my US type collection (my earliest US coins are from 1833, 1834, 1836, and 1839) and am now looking for classic commemoratives, which are also taking a big bite out of my purse.
The question still remains: is the coin in the post above countermarked? I remember looking a page of countermarked Finnish coins but I cannot remember the pictures and it seems I lost the page.
Citação: "Dato Mikeladze"
Found these two Parthian silvers 2 days ago. too happy :)
Brilliant finds. Is metal detecting allowed in Georgia? They just made it a crime (formerly a criminal offence) in Poland. Metal detectorists (although some rightly so) were added to an ever-increasing list of the "enemies of the people" there.
I'd already had the 1986 Statue of Liberty and 1987 Lafayette 100 Francs coins before January this year, but I recently added another coin to the three additions to the 100 Francs series I bought in Spain.
Finally found an elusive 1925 Canada Nickel, which was my 10,000th coin. Can't actually be sure which was 10,000 as I added about 141 today to get me to 10,053, but this was the most important of the bunch so I'll pretend it was 10,000.
Citação: "Bartweegie"Is metal detecting allowed in Georgia? They just made it a crime (formerly a criminal offence) in Poland. Metal detectorists (although some rightly so) were added to an ever-increasing list of the "enemies of the people" there.
What???
My turn: got a half dozen coins today, highlights are a Brazil 2000 réis 1929 (my 100th silver coin) and a beautiful french commemorative, 1 franc Charles de Gaulle 1988.
Citação: "Bartweegie"Is metal detecting allowed in Georgia? They just made it a crime (formerly a criminal offence) in Poland. Metal detectorists (although some rightly so) were added to an ever-increasing list of the "enemies of the people" there.
What???
My turn: got a half dozen coins today, highlights are a Brazil 2000 réis 1929 (my 100th silver coin) and a beautiful french commemorative, 1 franc Charles de Gaulle 1988.
That's true, metal detecting in Poland is illegal and you can get into jail.
Citação: "Bartweegie"Is metal detecting allowed in Georgia? They just made it a crime (formerly a criminal offence) in Poland. Metal detectorists (although some rightly so) were added to an ever-increasing list of the "enemies of the people" there.
What???
My turn: got a half dozen coins today, highlights are a Brazil 2000 réis 1929 (my 100th silver coin) and a beautiful french commemorative, 1 franc Charles de Gaulle 1988.
That's true, metal detecting in Poland is illegal and you can get into jail.
Alright, but what do they mean as metal detectors being enemies of the people?
Citação: "Bartweegie"Is metal detecting allowed in Georgia? They just made it a crime (formerly a criminal offence) in Poland. Metal detectorists (although some rightly so) were added to an ever-increasing list of the "enemies of the people" there.
What???
My turn: got a half dozen coins today, highlights are a Brazil 2000 réis 1929 (my 100th silver coin) and a beautiful french commemorative, 1 franc Charles de Gaulle 1988.
That's true, metal detecting in Poland is illegal and you can get into jail.
Alright, but what do they mean as metal detectors being enemies of the people?
I wrote"enemies of people" since the language the pro-criminalise-metal-detecting lobbyists (which is the current government's stance) employ to describe detectorists is quite vitriolic and hateful, although many detectorists reply in kind. There's also general dislike or even hate and lack of will to cooperate with the "treasure hunters"in the archeological community.
Among the coins I collect are ancient coins that depict Hercules (or more accurately Herakles). Here is a new coin that I purchased today. Super excited...
Macedonian Kingdom: Amyntas III (393-370/69 BCE) Æ Unit, Aigai or Pella (Westermark, Remarks, type 2; SNG ANS 47-8; SNG Alpha Bank 231-5)
Obv: Bearded head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin
Rev: AMYN-T-A; Forepart of boar right; club above
Wgt: 2.22 g
Size: 13.18 mm
Citação: "Quant-Geek"Macedonian Kingdom: Amyntas III (393-370/69 BCE) Æ Unit, Aigai or Pella (Westermark, Remarks, type 2; SNG ANS 47-8; SNG Alpha Bank 231-5)
Very well centered, which increases the desirability of any ancient lower-denomination coin, often struck off-flan.
Last lot of January from me
Over 100 year old stamps from montenegro, leeward isl. hongkong, new south wales (including 100 year one) mauritius, jamaica, cape of good hope, niger coast protectorate, england and ceylon, and from german empire, including a (1910 or 1919?) commemorative, weimar stamps, nazi stamps, bayern stamps, more english stamps and a chinese unopened lot.